vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 24, 2019 12:37PM |
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Carey, initial scrutiny yes, but once FDA approved pharma drugs aren't scrutinized imo, unless there are deaths and thousands of serious side effects little is done, same with ongoing research data of active users.
Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 25, 2019 02:09AM |
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That's just not true. Take anticoagulants, for example. There have been dozens and dozens of studies done on warfarin (perhaps hundreds), and many also with the newer NOACs. There are far more studies conducted on prescription drugs after FDA approval than supplements. I mean, it's not even close. What doesn't happen is the press doesn't report studies on prescription drugs because they're not interesting to the public.
Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 25, 2019 10:56AM |
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Actually you missed my point, I was simply stating that the pharma industry is trying so hard to discredit any potential benefits supplements may have.
Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 25, 2019 12:40PM |
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Actually, I don't think the pharma industry pays much attention to supplements, and they certainly don't spend big money discrediting them. Take a look at the authors of the study you cited in your post. They're all university scientists. There's no affiliation with pharma companies and no funding from them. In fact, I've never seen a study on supplements that was funded by a pharma company.
Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 25, 2019 01:22PM |
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Okay let’s stay on Vitamin D, why did they even bother doing the study, and why would they have an interest in it? After all pharma is ten times bigger, or is it because they are afraid of losing profits and dominance in the market?
Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 25, 2019 02:34PM |
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The authors of that study are medical school professors. That's what doctors in an academic setting DO. They're required to do research and they're required to publish. That's how they advance in their field. Many of them are quite passionate about it.
I don't know what profits and market dominance you're talking about. Those guys are all on salary at universities and don't have markets to dominate or profits to gain. If you want to believe scientists are so utterly corrupt that's your choice, but I think you're wrong and I think you're belittling honest people. In fact, this is exactly the narrative the supplements industry pushes and I think it's far more dishonest than anything the pharma industry does.
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Re: vitamin D supplementation was not associated with reduced major adverse cardiovascular events June 26, 2019 10:24AM |
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I'm in the field so I know what i'm talking about when it comes to pharma buying credibility through alliances with academia, that's the way it always been done. No one is going to fund your study unless it aligns with someone's interests, and then the same people get rewarded with kickbacks and high paying jobs within the industry. In this case, it seems the doctors are promoting a certain agenda, which ultimately hurts the general population that relies on facts and science. For more than two decades doctors have been telling people to stay out of sun when the opposite is in fact true, and now according to the same agenda, Vitamin D supplements are also useless. It's not in my character to belittle anyone, just questioning their rationale.