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So what do I do? How do I stop things becoming permanent this is all very depressing. Do I just continue on my flec, supplement accordingly and eat well and then when flec fails have an ablation? What did you do to manage things
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@carey - do you think it would be beneficial if I try drop it to 100mg of flec a day so then I have more room to use it over time. Though if I’m getting breakthroughs I guess that means it’s stopping working already.
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So what do I do? How do I stop things becoming permanent this is all very depressing. Do I just continue on my flec, supplement accordingly and eat well and then when flec fails have an ablation? What did you do to manage things
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Relatively Asymptomatic AFIB patients often don't feel a sense of urgency to Ablate, especially is they self-convert back to NSR within several days.
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Well that sucks... I thought if the ablation was successful you would be cured forever.
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I don’t drink, never smoked (not even a puff), eat well and do resistance training 5 days a week. Not overweight etc.
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I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger had AF he must have done a lot of heavy lifting.
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I have weight lifted for 37 years now, I can tell the strain on my Cardiovascular system when I do a Compound Weightlifting exercise. The way to lift for People with AFIB, is too do Isolation exercises that target individual body parts, and not take as long of a break or maybe even no breaks in-between sets. A Trigger for PAC's, and thus AFIB, can be the Hearts inability to decelerate properly after completing a Heavy Compound exercise. This is in addition to the Atrial Stretch that can occur from putting acute high loads on the Heart.
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I wonder if Arnold Schwarzenegger had AF he must have done a lot of heavy lifting.
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I am not sure where I read it, but I have seen multiple references to Arnold and other Bodybuilders developing Valve problems along with AFIB.
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Just a quick note, Dr Natale just cautions Afibbers not to do very heavy bench and overhead presses above body weight ... The vast majority of folks can still engage in highly strenuous and effective exercise programs, and stay in excellent shape, after an expert ablation process.
He means the caution mainly for extreme body-builder type weight lifters and is from his frequent observation of both the need for open heart valve replacement surgery AND a super high incident of ongoing AFIB in serious competition level body builders later in life.... i.e. Arnold Schwarzenegger who has had valve surgery and AFIB, also the father of modern body building Joe Weider who died at a ripe old age of heart failure arising from complications from prior multiple valve replacements. Also, a significant number of owners and trainers of serious heavy iron gyms up and down the west coast, and in other parts of the US, have found a similar later life fate years after retiring from active competition.
When you really strain so hard and so often that you really have to grunt doing weight work, especially overhead and bench presses, it is like putting a constricting band around one's thicker-walled muscular ventricles such that this tight restrictive contraction of the ventricle's forces the two thinner-walled atria to balloon out and stretch over time which can often then lead, long-term, to leaky poorly seated cardiac valves and which also makes one especially AFIB prone due to the often dilated atria.
The vast majority of folks, though, after a successful expert AFIB ablation process, can engage in a very vigorous exercise program without having a problem just by taking a few modest precautions and applying good common sense.
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Well that really sucks then. I have done heavy bench press ever since I was 17 years old, and would regularly lift 250-300 pounds. So everything else is fine to do aside from bench and overhead press? Going to lose a lot of strength doing bench press at just my body weight. I guess life really is unfair. I had started to limit bench to 80% of my 1rm but man, as low as body weight it is then
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Philippe Coumel, MD, FESC
I usually tell my patients it all depends on them and that the answer lies in their own observations. This is, in particular, the case for sports, whether on an occasional basis or with the major issue of professional training; excessive training is harmful when it exaggeratedly modifies the ANS balance beyond the sympathetic and parasympathetic physiological values. It is a major mistake to think that the man in the street must be as trained and fit as the professional sportsman.Any common sense driver knows that if he wants to make his car last he must avoid handling it as a rally or Formula I driver.