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"I'd love it if that were the case, because I'd then be achieving what Apixaban achieves without the side effects".
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Hi Jackie,
nature generally has a way of being 'safe', unlike drugs. Natural foods/extracts may not generall be as potent/effective as drugs, but the're generally safer.
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Only when they're ingested via a balanced diet. Never as supplements, or even concentrated green drinks. When that's the case, see them as medicine.
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jpeters and carey, I see you are both new to this forum and wonder who you are working for? which drug company.
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I've had two TIA's in last 2 years (so obviously quite serious) and was advised to take Eliquis, but have not done so yet, preferring to use only natural thinners.
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To your other point, I have unfortunately seen what a stroke does at first hand, as my mother had a very serious one from which she didn't recover. So its' not that I don't appreciate the seriousness and the risk. It's just that I really want to try and resolve the problem naturally if I can.
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[I was able to raise my INR "naturally", so take a minuscule dose of warfarin.]
So did you raise your INR with natural thinners plus a minuscule dose of Warfarin, or just the Warfarin?. I haven't got my head around what impacts PT/INR yet and what doesn't (I know Warfarin does, but not sure about other thinners) and whether it always matters (for thinners, other than Warfarin). Since INR is a measurement of clotting speed, it would seem logical that it does matter for all types of thinner. Thanks!
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So did you raise your INR with natural thinners plus a minuscule dose of Warfarin, or just the Warfarin?. I haven't got my head around what impacts PT/INR yet and what doesn't (I know Warfarin does, but not sure about other thinners) and whether it always matters (for thinners, other than Warfarin). Since INR is a measurement of clotting speed, it would seem logical that it does matter for all types of thinner. Thanks!
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jpeters,
It's set me wondering whether I could do a mixed approach with small doses of the new NOACs. The key to it all is measurability of proven viscosity markers (something I'm still reading about on this site)