Dental Cavitations - A Possible Cause for Afib?

Hello! This is my first post. Thanks for letting me in. hehe

I'm in my 40s and started having lone afib off and on about 3 years ago. Now it's a few days each week. I have pretty good health otherwise and no comorbidities.

I saw a documentary called "Root Cause" in which they discussed how dental cavitations, especially in the area of the wisdom teeth, can sometimes cause afib due to the fact that they sit on the heart meridian. In the video there was a dentist who got afib issue all of a problem and traced it back to wisdom teeth he had extracted over 20 years ago. He had a dental cavitation. Once he fixed it his afib went away!

Has anyone come across this before or have you experience this?

Thanks in advance for your responses!

As there are no absolutes for the cause of our condition, Ive always believed that anything and everything is on the table, especially our teeth. I too was graced with afib one year after receiving my first, and last, root canal in my "heart" molar. I recently had it removed after a natural dentist's warning me it was most likely infected over the last 5-10 years. I read "Hidden Epidemic" by JD Levy, a cardiologist who experienced heart issues himself he attributed to cavitation. I paid the extra $200 for a Cone 3 D Xray which showed infection in the root and bone. I am glad it was only one tooth because it is not a pleasant experience. Most of the bone in front and back of the tooth was massively infected and scraped down/removed while required bone grafting with cadaver bone. Im in the 2nd month of a 3 month recovery and I have sensed some changes in my health such as better endurance, sleep and better digestion , though not ready to say afib has left completely. But it is one less and massive health issue I believe to correct regardless.

Thanks! Very interesting post. I'm going for a Cone beam this week. I'm glad you've seen some benefits.

Im guessing because its a cone 3D Xray, it is a naturalpathic Doctor? I wouldnt trust just any conventional dentist to remove it. Keep us posted to the results of that Xray.

This is supposedly a very experienced biological dentist with great ratings. It appears I might have one cavitation, according to the report. But, I'll see him next week. I'll keep you posted.

Sounds like you have it under control. One cavitation should be a breeze compared to a root canal. Is it a molar? Not sure if you have time, but I did serum tests for markers and levels. One in particular was CRP/C-Reactive Protein level which was quite elevated along with LDL. I retest 6 months from the removal.

Thanks. I had the surgery a few days ago and it was a breeze. This bio-dentist does them almost every day, uses ozone, PRF, cone beam, etc... It was where I had my wisdom tooth extracted over 20 years ago. Unfortunately my afib came back the next day and I'm on day 3 of that which is a bummer. But, maybe it'll take some time. I'm interested to see if it gets better over the next few months. I'll let you know. Did some of your symptoms get better immediately or over time?

Cir, sorry to hear that. I think there are many positives to removing infectious areas in our mouth. I believe the original studies were mostly related to breast cancer fatalities. Most had root canal or gum infections. Next was reports from autopsies of heart attack victims.The same infection in the tooth was found in the plaque of the arteries. I didnt remove my root canal simply to be free from afib, but to hopefully increase my overall health and heart health. After 3 months I have noticed some small health benefits along with less ectopic beats. Afib is a rare event for me anyway and is controlled 363 days out of 365 days most years, so I may not be the best comparison. I bet your system was certainly effected by this procedure and any change could have disrupted your rhythm. Hang in there and know that what you did was a positive for your health and will only benefit you at some point. Off the subject, what protocol do you follow to stay in NSR or to convert back?

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Thanks for your insight! I have nothing that consistently works in getting me back into NSR. At times it seems like some things help, but then they done. I've tried the CALM drink (magnesium), essential oils like ylang ylang and aroma life from Young Living, warm showers, pressure points, coughing, breathing as if I was blowing up a balloon, etc.... I'm open to any other things too! :-)

PS - Not sure why this topic was moved to "General Health" because it has to do directly with afib, but, I'm just happy to be here!

It was moved by the Thought Police here. Not sure either, seeing how it was mentioned as a question from a book written about afib. I would hope that any and all causes impacting this horrible condition besides the low success ablations and black box warning meds, arent the only topics discussed here? I wont be patronized with a move to general health by ignorance and narrow minded posters.

Get the book, "Hidden Epidemic". Its all in there. Written by a cardiologist who was in denial about tooth cavitations, but damn those pesky heart attacks got his attention.

Thanks! I appreciate the insight.

What is truly surprising about this subject is, the lack of interest. You cant tell me that everyone has a perfect smile with no gum issues, especially my generation. Why is it that we have to do unending searches for these simple yet radical reports? One report I had heard was the Dental Flossing stat from the ADA. Daily flossing could add up to 3 years to your life expectancy. I dont know what moves that needle 1 year let alone 3, but I am guessing that is a high impact benefit. There is much more than meets the allopathic eye in our mouths. For this Dr to have a heart attack that revealed the same infection in his plaque filled arteries as his root canal is beyond startling.

I agree. Cavitations and root canals are the sources of many health issues imho.

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What is truly surprising about this subject is, the lack of interest. You cant tell me that everyone has a perfect smile with no gum issues, especially my generation. Why is it that we have to do unending searches for these simple yet radical reports? One report I had heard was the Dental Flossing stat from the ADA. Daily flossing could add up to 3 years to your life expectancy. I dont know what moves that needle 1 year let alone 3, but I am guessing that is a high impact benefit. There is much more than meets the allopathic eye in our mouths. For this Dr to have a heart attack that revealed the same infection in his plaque filled arteries as his root canal is beyond startling.

hwkmn05 - Thanks for your contribution and observation about the dental health link to overall good health. You may recall my reading some of my observations as a Registered Dental Hygienist for 22 years before AF entered my life. There are many very important links to health problems that can be tracked back to cases such as an abscessed tooth which leads to root canal treatment or extraction... and a lot depends on the skill and knowledge of the dentist along with number of years doing the procedure.

Typically, general dentists will refer patients to a root-canal specialist (Endodontist) because the goal is not only to eliminate the infection, but also to save the tooth. But, even if the tooth has to be extracted, the clean-out of the area and followup treatment with meds is critical so that the affected bone tissue can regenerate as healthy tissue in that space and it can take quite a bit of time to be sure all has healed well When that's not done properly, a lot of complications can arise.

That's not to say that a highly skilled and experienced general dentist can't do a root canal treatment properly, but over the years, I've seen botched attempts at root canals by lesser skilled general dentists.... (it goes without saying, in any field, there are some highly skilled and some who are not...and obviously, it's the patient who suffers in the long run.)

Thanks also for mentioning the importance of daily flossing. There again, I've seen countless examples of not only severe dental problems in patients who ignore the importance of flossing, but as you mention, very serious health problems can be the result. The cavitation left from an extraction that doesn't heal properly is definitely a concern as is a root canal-treated area where the abscess at the tip of the root damages a lot of bone and the infection doesn't clear up as efficiently as it should. Also, dental implants are another source that can be problematic when not done properly.

It all points to what circulates throughout the entire body via the blood stream.. dental infections included.

Jackie

Thanks for your insights Jackie! If you haven't watched the documentary Root Cause I would recommend it highly.

Jackie, absolutely agree with skill and experience being a determining factor for any tooth issue and removal. Gosh in 22 years, Im sure you have seen some cases. Having our afib condition, we certainly understand the differences between the skill of an average EP or a highly skilled EP performing ablations. I am very skeptical that any allopathic Dentists can even perform a cleaning correctly now. Fortunately, I am close to the only ND dentist in my state and have the utmost confidence in him and his staff. My RC removal was a 3 hour procedure with proper dams and solutions used. Much time was taken to drill out most of the roots and jaw bone on both sides with bone grafting from my blood draw beforehand. I am choosing the Zirconian implant because I need to have a stable base for this side due to an older bridge for molars on the other side. Thanks for your insightful post.

hwkmn05 and cirenepurzelot - thanks for your comments... I have more to add and it's my intention to offer that soon.

Jackie

Personally, I prefer an experienced biological dentist who uses ozone, PRF, cone beams, who understands the dangers of root canals, etc.... And, one that has really great ratings online too.

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I have more to add and it's my intention to offer that soon.

I look forward to your comments, Jackie.

Sorry - coming soon.

Jackie